Jenni Murray - helpful and/or hurtful?

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Jenni Murray - helpful and/or hurtful?

Postby Helen » Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:16 pm


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Re: Jenni Murray - helpful and/or hurtful?

Postby Ice Maiden » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:16 am

She is an idiot!

Trans women are women from birth just have a genetic quirk that needs surgery or meds to rectify. Her view is like sating someone born with one leg is not a real human as they have two normally.

And what is a 'Real woman' anyway? She may have chromosomes but so does Kate Moss and she don't look like her. That is Genes for yah.

If she had a Hysterectomy then she would differ very little from a trans* woman who has had surgery.

All she has to remember is brain sex is the sex regardless of any other avenue (pun intended).

Unless she thinks with her genitals? Most trans* I know would not go through the trauma they do to be themselves to 'pretend' I just wish I could put her as a 8 year old in a boys body. Knowing you cannot say anything for fear of abuse by your peers, family and society and people like her are catalysts for this view.

As I said just an IDIOT! Ignorant and lacks empathy.

Probably jealous cos most trans* are are smarter and better looking than she is ;) - Well we are all thinking it! ;)
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Re: Jenni Murray - helpful and/or hurtful?

Postby Ice Maiden » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:17 am

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Re: Jenni Murray - helpful and/or hurtful?

Postby Steffi » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:09 pm

I think that what she is mainly pointing out is that transwomen missed the Socialisation of born women - as we know, girls are taught different behaviours, goals and expectations from an early age. We miss out on going through the process of growing up and going through adolescence among our female peers.

However we feel about ourselves, I think that it is a valid point that we missed that ..........and can never recover it.
The writer went out of her way to stress that she is not ANTI-trans ....... she is just making the point that I did above and which I feel does have some significance.
- it certainly does to me.
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Re: Jenni Murray - helpful and/or hurtful?

Postby Steffi » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:17 am

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