Man Down - Channel 4 'TRANNY' Followed by assault for laughs

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Man Down - Channel 4 'TRANNY' Followed by assault for laughs

Postby Ice Maiden » Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:01 am

Man Down
18/10
Channel 4

Sitcom about a frustrated teacher written by and starring Greg Davies. Dan has lost his trousers and is in danger of losing his girlfriend. He hates his job, his dad is out to get him, his friends can't help him and there's a tailor on the war path.

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So whats happened tonight on Channel 4? Well here is the transcript.

Greg Davies has worn the wrong underpants.

The tailor earlier said, "he doesn't like perverts!"

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Greg gets changed, the curtain opens.

Tailor - "Oh My Good God!"
Greg - "No! Seriously!"
Tailor - "I should have known!"
Greg - "Oh no!"
Tailor - "A nonce!" (nonce is UK Slang for paedophile.)
Greg - "They're my mum's!"
Tailor - "I'll bet their your mum's! You STINKING TRANNY!"
He holds up the scissors and approaches him aggressively...
Tailor - "Lock the shop Jason!"

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The Tailor gets large cutting scissors (to castrate obviously),

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We then see him attack Greg and beat him up.

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Anyone remember April the transwoman being beaten up and smashed through a plate-glass window in the IT Crowd that was another Channel 4 episode too. Reminded me a bit of that. So likely had an influence.

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This really is rock bottom for Channel 4

All the work put into educating these numbskulls, all the proud boasts of media activists and their meetings with various executives with 'All About Trans', all the effort and work put in by Trans Media Watch and this is what we get! I suggest waiting till I can prove their claims before people get carried away with the successes.

This is a brand new sitcom starring Greg Davies.

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For those that may not know Greg here he is in Jan 2011 on BBC's Fast and Loose:
Fast and Loose
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Greg Davis
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"I like boys and girls."
Aggressively - "WHAT ARE YOU!"
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It beggars belief and something is broken in activism if this is the result of all these meetings. Truly I am at a loss! People keep saying, "we will speak to them" How many years do Channel 4 need to fix this? They ARE NOT LISTENING! So perhaps another route is now necessary. Channel 4 have the cheek to promote their work with the trans community to show they are getting results, they even have their logo emblazoned on documents they have agreed to.

http://www.allabouttrans.org.uk/ Look at their Logo at the bottom of this page! I mean seriously? It's shameless!

The problem Channel 4 has is me, because were it not for our data here on Transgender Zone half of this would be missed. And people would believe the nonsense that they are making progress.

It worries me a little as many of the proud boasts in this months 'Pink List' have foundations in the results that are supposedly being delivered by television media. I think 'wish list' maybe a better description. Hold off the awards until the results are in. After all we can all try and put it right. but that's not success.

How do we fix this, I am but one person, full-time working at this and curating what has become the national transgender television media archive (and data), I name and shame. I think there seems to be a fear of upsetting Channel 4 if you tell them straight - they have failed! I do not want a career with them personally so do not care, but many who negotiate with them do want to get work with them - or hope to. Maybe they would get more respect from them if they stood up to them. Its a risk and you may end up "never working in this town again!" But I think this is the level we need to be active at. Not all smiles and agreements.

I say it again and again, they have taken us all for chumps. I said it 3 years ago with the MOU and I am saying it again tonight.

Stay tuned, you never know you luck might be cannibalism and ritual sacrifice of trans next eh?

'The Wicker Tran' anyone?

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Man Down - Channel 4 'PERVERT' more abuse!

Postby Ice Maiden » Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:23 pm

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Man Down
22/11
Channel 4

Sitcom about a frustrated teacher, written by and starring Greg Davies. Brian finds himself nominated for a Small Business Award and Dan must quickly find a tuxedo and a date to impress his ex. There is unrest at school when the class realise it could be the end of Space Mission.

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Just when you thought it was safe to watch the show again Channel 4 peddle more transphobia based on an earlier episode of this series reported last month. Here. viewtopic.php?f=16&t=3997

In this final episode of the series... - what you mean there will be more?

The character attends a small business awards ceremony. This allows the Transphobic Tailor to confront Greg Davies in the toilets.

To add a bit more his cisgender female friend dresses as a man to be his plus 1. However, he assumed she would be there in a dress etc... she turns up as a guy - 'for a laugh' of course.

TRANSCRIPTS

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"Oh What a surprise! Come to have a little look [at my genitalia] have yah?!"

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"No, its just..."
"Well I haven't got my mum's pants on I am afraid!"
"Look Please...mate."

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"I'll bet you've got a lovely lacy pair under there though haven't you?" [SHOUTS VIOLENTLY!] "YOU CROSS-DRESSING PERVERT!!! Nice little bra under that shirt is there?"
"No it is a bandage?..."
"I AM WATCHING YOU! YOU TWISTED F*CK!!!"

Later

"Why have you come dressed as a man?"

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"I had it left over from my private detective agency!"

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"Why would I want people to think I was gay?" [All trans are gay?]
"This is the most frightening thing you have ever done!" [The most frightening thing?]

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Points at unbound breasts - "Oh My God!!!"

Image 0/5 TZ Stars - Terrible!!!

Precisely OMG! I mean this series is probably one of the worse I have seen in this regard. Only topped by ITV1's 'Moving Wallpaper', but at least in that there was an actual trans character - this is abuse by proxy by proxy. What on earth is going on seriously. I am truly shocked!

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Re: Man Down - Channel 4 'TRANNY' Followed by assault for la

Postby Ice Maiden » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:47 pm

This is a very difficult situation because of the media charity buffer zones that now exist, as Channel 4 can simply say, "Well all about trans and Trans Media Watch have not said a word!" I always complained and steered these things. I hoped that the transmedia charities would change that. But they say very little other than pat them on the back.

The bottom of thsis page has two logos
http://www.allabouttrans.org.uk/ Channel 4 and the BBC - yet those two channels are the worse AGAIN!

This causes a big problem. As it is sending Channel 4 mixed messages. I soon can be labeled a 'crank' or an old moaner. And the young and trendy who want to work for the media (some don't even have a TV licence - FACT! They said so) are saying they are great!

A broadcaster can either listen to me who has data surpassing 25 years (and longer) available with huge archives specialising in television who doesn't like something or listen to a group of young trendy trans who are camera-ready and give them gifts and smile and thank them.

Agreeable people are always easier to deal with. As you do not have to actually do anything in that instance :)

In my world the solution costs money, time and effort!

We at Tzone are using carrots and sticks now - name and shame in a busy forum - we give awards. I think it maybe more useful for everyone to complain to the media charities as well so they feel more representative when they act.

Trans Media Watch and AllaboutTrans together writing an open letter shaming Channel 4 publicly would have a huge effect, but its risky if the BBC and Channel 4 just turn around and leave and pull funding etc? But tbh I see no improvement, so it would be no great loss. There are better channels or channels now improving where we should focus and just leave the BBC and Channel 4 behind! They will soon wake up as they are public broadcasters! Ironically the best Channels do no need all this blowing smoke up their a*ses either. I have dealt with some broadcasters and they are always up there. And they just get it first time and it is done! They do not need these prolonged ridiculous meeting now many years of it. To sort the problems out. Big Brother and Endemol is a case in point! You can track their changes in 2 years from initial complaints by me to their brilliant outcomes when Luke went in. Nadia won in 2004 and they then slid too... 3 years ago one of the housemate's entry videos openly used 'Tranny!' I kid you not! But thats one success. I am not sure if it is because it is Channel 5 and C5 have been our best Broadcaster for years now. And maybe even so when the awards are given again in Jan for 2013.

In general I am the only person raising these concerns in such an open way, when I do people are shocked, but the media charities say nothing - I mean apart from hearing them say 'we have a meeting (another one, Yawn!) and will discuss this with them' - but this is basically defending them in so many words, what I want to hear is , "This is a DISGRACE! And we will be telling them so in 3 weeks!!!! At least that shows some back-bone. This will be their poisoned chalice if they are all mealy-mouthed, it already is, I speak to a LOT of activists and they are almost all disillusioned now with the Media Charities - especially AllaboutTrans - and now see it as a recruitment centre where the broadcasters have the whip-hand! As they do not want to burn bridges, its just a lot of selfies, but if those bridges are already beyond repair why bother? It is the 'long con' I can see it - shame noone else can!

The only power we have is the power of omission! And the power to name and shame! That is it! And I am one of the few doing it - isn't that weird? I mean I write it all out I do not sensationalise and trust me doing this is far more time-consuming than shaking hands with the devil over coffee. I write the transcripts down (for legal reasons).

The drop-out interest in these charities is to me in part because progress is slow. If not stagnant, in television, and resetiing us once a year with some transprogramme is not enough - no MORE DOCUMENTARIES! Lets see drama and trans being written into mainstream stuff - I cite the BBC serial drama (soap) 'Eastenders 'and say an FTM (GENUINE TRANS MAN) as a locum Doctor in 'Eastenders' for example - their rating suck - this may well help them - they are all just too thick to see it - Trans currency is huge SPEND SOME! Just ask Lavern Cox! ;)
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Re: Man Down - Channel 4 'TRANNY' Followed by assault for la

Postby BeckiKeiko » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:12 pm

I remember discussing the state of transphobic media at a feminist meeting recently and they were pretty shocked when I talked about this show. It's quite clear what the intentions are here, there are profound levels of dehumanization (where trans people, or a trans identity becomes no longer a profound human issue but becomes something for people to laugh at, mock and victimize). It promotes hatred, disdain and violence.

Were the characters pretending to be disabled, deaf, or wearing blackface and such acts of violence and discrimination acted out against them there would be uproar. Yet for a medical condition (which lies untreated among many because of the profound stigma attached)... nothing.

Allowing this to remain unchecked is like saying "it's ok", I have to agree with Sam here, not only to say that it is a disgrace, but I would go one further and say that inaction is sanctioning transphobia, abuse and violence against all trans people.
Handle with caution, purrs nicely ^.^ or rips your face off. Watch for the tail twitch.



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