THE BIG TWIST (LIVE)
So Lauren Sophie and Louie are in the secret society cult - the secret of celebrity.DAY 1
We see the BB House side tonight where all the housemates arrive.
Lauren Harries is described as 'Former Child Prodigy'.
Louie Spence I suppose historically has worked with women all his career as a dancer/choreographer, and is not backwards in coming forwards when talking about the body. And reminds me of Gok Wan, in the way he uses 'GAY licence' as an excuse to what I personally would feel would be inappropriately touch women. If he touched me like that he would never hear the end of it!
In light of all the celebrity scandals recently, to watch Louie touch Lauren's breasts seemed just too forward and, were this not the Big Brother house and were he not well known would this be acceptable say in the street? I do not think it would be. And this is what has driven the scandals recently, Well known people using their fame as a way to say and do things that us mere mortals would likely get arrested for! I will give the reasons for this later.
The Cult of Celebrity had to choose one member of the house to face eviction and chose Rona Atkinson by handing him a bottle of Champagne they all entered separately as if to suggest they were in isolation mortals. Reminds me of giving the 'Black Spot' to a pirate. Kiss of death 'n' all that.
There seemed to be a lot of objectification going on in this episode, primarily based around the LA celeb COURTNEY STODDEN, They were all calling her everything from a gold-digger, to a doll, talking about her breasts - Louie calling them footballs. Her voice being shrill lead to a number of rather cruel remarks. Louie for a gay man seems to spend a lot of time debating the female body? I find this odd.
When it came to choosing the person I found it interesting that Lauren chose Carol McGiffin, I wonder if Lauren has been following our views here?viewtopic.php?f=16&t=931
Or here?http://www.transgenderzone.com/results. ... 1835908j14
or this more recent event below between the ---?
taken from our archive tv logs hereviewtopic.php?f=106&t=3661---
She says when she dolls herself up
"I look like a transvestite!"
Laughter from audience
Denise buts in - "We've all had that said!"
Then Jane MacDonald mentions, "that there is nothing wrong with that!"
Carol quickly puts up her hands and says in a sing-songey voice - "Nothing wrong with being a transvestite!!!"
[WELL WHY SAY IT THEN CAROL? IM]
Denise - My dad is a drag queen and my Ex Husband is the transvestite in Benidorm - Laughing - "You don't dis my dad!"
Carol - "Its not right if you are a woman! You are already a woman!"
To be honest I think she should find another metaphor - this is going nowhere and just opens a can of worms.
Carol has been reported here as saying these things and the 'tranny' comment here viewtopic.php?f=16&t=931
was unforgivable for a broadcaster of her standing. She has been doing it for years! If it gets a laugh then don't do it!
Anyways moving on, Lauren chose McGiffin - coincidence? She said I do not think we will get on!
So watch this space, maybe this is something Endemol have read here, I know they visit! So perhaps they have thought hmmmm, Carol known for her trans misdemeanors and Lauren? Could this be a way to rescue Carol and turn this around I do hope so as apart from that I do like her style - she is gutsy like Janett Street-Porter.(Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).
Lauren - "I think Carol could come across as a bit aggressive though!"
Louie - "Do you?!"
Lauren - "Yeah - I am not looking forward to meeting Carol."
Sophie - "No honey, she will be charming!"
Lauren (SHAKING HER HEAD) "No! Oh I dunno?"
Lauren Chooses Carol - "I picked Carol because I think she's really miserable ... and I do not think we are going to get on!"(Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).(Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).(Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).(Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).
Upon entering the house first with a cake - "Hello Carol nice to see you..." If only she knew?(Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).(Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).
And Carol immediately lets loose a dig at Lauren.
"Oh you are so tall! What have you got on your feet GIANT SHOES?!"(Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).
It dawned on her in this reaction as you can see, but Lauren moved on and said yeas very high...
I think that was a far more Freudian comment, TALL, BIG FEET? Within one second of meeting her? No one else said it. You do the math.
Everyone else said, "nice to meet you, thank you for the cake."Big Brother's Bit On the Side
- the sister show where they discuss the main show directly afterwards.
This was a little bit of a worry and I will explain why and this also plays back to the earlier comments.
Rylan asked who would you really like to have been up for eviction.
Bobby Norris - (The Only Way is Essex) - "If I woke up 3 o'clock in the morning and saw 'that' across the room! That is the biggest HASHTAG SH*T THE BED I HAVE EVER SEEN!"(Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).
As you can see the laughter from some panelists (Holly and Bobby) fortunately not all, as the panelist to the left Patrick Strudwick was supportive of her.
Cruel and unnecessary. Transphobic reaction nothing less.
However .... rescued it on balance with this comment.(Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).
Patrick Strudwick - Lauren is the best housemate Big Brother will ever see! For years I have been saying Lauren Harries needs to get into the house, and finally producers have listened, even though I didn't actually say it!" To be fair I think some others have also wanted it too.Patrick writes for major newspapers and is at has some emotional intelligence. Thank goodness for him being there else it would have been lambs to the slaughter!
Holly Hagan (from MTV series Geordie Shore). - "She's scary, I don't know what she's thinking, she doesn't give any emotion away" (Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).
Fear of a transperson for existing - is transphobia.
Bobby Norris - "It is like Madame Tussauds in it!" [IT?]
Louie Leads the conversation, So Lauren is just sat there and this is how he manipulated the conversation.
Louie Spence - "Where have your t*ts gone they were massive last night?.."
Lauren Harries - "No here they are." and just lifts them lightly through her nightgown - as we all would.(Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).
Louie - "Oh there's your girls," in a rather creepy way to be honest.
Lauren - "Yes..."
Louie - "What are they are they sillicone?"
Lauren - "I never tell..."
Louie - "Oh c'mon darling..."
Lauren - Half asleep, "They're real..."
Lauren then pushes them together and says they were pushed together - meaning uplift bra - Then Louie leans across and starts touching them. Like its perfectly acceptable to invade someone's space because he is apparently gay, although the way he was grunting and breathing whilst he did it kind made me feel more like watching some predator. See for yourself.
Louie - "There is some silicone in there..."(Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).
Lauren - "I am not saying anything you can come to your own conclusion." Meaning she is behaving like a lady and keeping that to herself.
Somehow he managed to get other issues out of her namely the surgery.
Louie - About her surgery - "The willy?"
Lauren - "It was used for the operation."
Louie - "Oh yeah cos they turn it inside out don't they!"
Sophie - "Really?"(Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).
Louie - Then Demonstrates the technique with his hand (pictured), "Then they put it inside, doesn't that determine the depth?"
Whilst using his thumb and forefinger as a measurement.
Lauren - "Yeah - you can have a very deep vagina..."
Louie - "So you have to have a big willy then?" This is bringing it back around to it all being about male.
Lauren - uncomfortable - "I don't remember." Shaking her head.
She should not be asked this on national television, as he asked how deep Sophie Anderton's vagina is? She is sat there.
Lauren - "But I know I have got a deep vagina..."
Louie - "Oh so you had a BIG WILLY then..."(Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).
Lauren looks a bit dazed. I think it dawned on her what just happened.
It cuts back to the studio...(Image: Channel 5/ Endemol).
Rylan - "They had a very deep chat - biting his lip..."
AJ - "Very Deep!" Makes a face.
This seemed to me like a very predatory investigation and Lauren was clearly tired and changed for bed. What can she do?
If she stood up and said "HOW DARE YOU TOUCH ME WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE!!!" I would have, and went to big brother and said
I have been sexually assaulted what would have happened?
This sends out the wrong message to people in the streets as if it is OK to press the breasts of a transgender woman by a complete stranger and who the f*ck is Louie anyway? He is all said and done just 'Some guy' in a house? And then to go on and extract intimate information about your sexual organs.
I am beginning to wonder if Carol is the one to watch, this whole 'Gay Licence' thing is clearly a concern not least in BB but outside with people like Alan Carr and Paul O Grady and others, who have used the term tranny for laughs countless times - we have it here on record - we keep all video clips as we may have to prove what we say!
At least when Luke discussed his genitals it was on his terms - he made the joke a Reebok Pump to his very good friend in there and outside - I have the clips.
But we at least do not have to prove this this time when it is being streamed to your TV and you have photos - what more can I say it is ONLY Day one.
Lauren has been mocked, abused, humiliated, told she is tall and has big feet, had her genitals discussed, spoken to about her maleness (her penis), inappropriately touched without being asked, and had transphobic comments on Bit on the Side, Emma Willis (the old presenter) wouldn't have allowed that had she been there - people have tried in the past and she cut them down in an instant, New presenters Rylan and AJ did. But Rylan is Gay too so I don't know something is askew. And it is somehow more acceptable to behave like this.
VERY DISAPPOINTING PROGRAMME! I felt Lauren was in a vulnerable state and was well... you decide for yourself.
She just wants to enjoy the experience and probably makes allowances for curiosity - thats fine, but it should be her choice, not have it removed from her in some creepy manipulative way as that's how it seemed to me.
As for the Bit on the Side programme - quite deflated! I hope they read this and reign it back in!